Perry's comments calling a fence to help control illegal border
crossings "ludicrous" and "preposterous" were carefully hidden by
your paper.
Just for the record, anyone who comes into our country illegally is
a "CRIMINAL" by law. Only in the USA - under bleeding heart
liberals - are such criminals rewarded with so many "rights" and
"benefits" for their illegal actions.
No, Mr. Kennedy, you can endorse the lying Perry/Bush position all
you want, "Farmers Branch" has it right and I think the voters will
show you just how right. Maybe in the near future, other
cities will "help" the Federal Government - to actually enforce our
existing laws - despite your endorsement of such criminal activity.
Ron C. West
North Richland Hills, TX
Bud Kennedy wrote:
Hi Ron,
Thanks very much for your note. It's interesting to hear from you.
Please tell me more about your family's past involvement with the
League of the South.
You raised a question about the use of the word "noncriminal."
That is the federal government's term.
Immigration law is civil law. Technically, violations are a civil
matter.
The House passed a bill last session to make illegal immigration a
crime. It failed in the Senate.
Write again or anytime,
--Bud
Ron West wrote:
Just FYI. I have no connection with the League of the
South. Now now, not ever. I am proud of the fact that my
great grandfather died in the service of the Confederacy
fighting for states rights - not for slavery. Do you remember
that good old Abe
Lincoln freed only the slaves in the south but not those in the
north? Like most politicians, he was taking away things or
possessions from others without applying his edicts to himself.
Sounds like our current congress doesn't it?
The federal government's definition probably occurred under Bush
since he thinks the Constitution is just a piece of paper.
Remember your "civil" definition the next time a terrorist after
they have crossed our borders illegally blows up
some more citizens. Do you define the 911 folks as something
other than criminals?
I am not a racist, bigot or any other label that you might like
to pin on anyone who disagrees with you. I consider people
crossing the border getting free medical, the right to own
property, and passes on our Texas laws such as requirements for
liability insurance to be "criminals" since they violate laws
that you only believe to be civil. They are a threat to our
society and the future
of the USA.
You might want to visit Mexico to try to buy a piece of property
there after you have crossed into Mexico without going through
their immigration requirements. My bet is that they would
classify you as a real criminal. I wonder if they would
provide you with free medical after they beat you up?
Ron
Bud Kennedy wrote:
Hi Ron,
You were listed as a trustee of TAIG, which promoted the League of
the South and other anarchist groups through links on its Web site.
Also, I have no doubt that your great-grandfather thought he was
fighting for states' rights.
However, Texas' leaders gave some other reasons for the war:
http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/ref/abouttx/secession/2feb1861.html
To answer your question, immigration has always fallen under civil
law. Some of the 911 pilots were visa overstayers, which is not
even lawbreaking -- it is simply "out of status." Obviously, the 911
pilots were not criminals until they committed a crime.
I am not aware of anyone receiving "free medical care" unless they
prove indigent status, or dodging the requirement for liability
insurance.
I have no idea what you mean about illegal immigrants owning
property. There is no law against anyone in the world owning
American property, no matter where they live.
Write anytime,
--Bud
Ron West wrote:
The answer is the same I had no connection to the League of the
South. I was a trustee for TAIG which was an organization that
filed a legal lawsuit to try to preclude the use of the Social
Security Number to acquire a Drivers License in Texas. I was
independent and functioned only to receive funds for the group.
Nearly $10,000 was donated to pay for the legal fees for the suit.
The case was lost and SS# - as you are aware - is becoming required
to do business in the USA. My old SS card says not for
identification but that is just another government lie isn't it?
TAIG disbanded after the loss of the lawsuit.
TAIG website was not under my control and I was not affiliated with
any links or content on that site.
This website was maliciously quoted by JoAnn Johnson stating that
TAIG advocated overthrow of our government
by violence (which was a bald faced lie) when I ran for City Council
several years ago. She lied to enough people
that she retained her office for an additional two years.
After your latest reply, I looked up League of the South and found
the following:
"The
League of the South
seeks to advance the cultural, social, economic, and political
well-being and independence of the Southern people by all honorable
means. Thus, the central idea that drives our organization is the
redemption of our independence as a nation. We envision a free and
prosperous Southern Republic founded on private property, free
association, fair trade, sound money, low and equitable taxes, equal
justice before the law, secure borders, and armed and vigilant
neutrality. Self-governing states and local communities invoking
the favor and guidance of Almighty God. A bold, self-confident
civilization based on its cultural and ethnic European roots.
As a
means of making real our vision of a Southern Republic, we must
first revitalize our largely Anglo-Celtic culture. Without a strong
cultural base, political independence will be difficult to attain.
But to strengthen Southern culture, we must overcome the mis-education
of our people by undertaking a campaign to properly educate them
about the history of the South in particular and America in general.
To
re-create Southern society, we should encourage the growth of
largely self-sufficient communities among our people. We can
develop healthy local communities and institutions by "abjuring the
realm:" seceding from the mindless materialism and vulgarity of
contemporary American society. To stimulate the economic vitality
of our people, we must become producers and not just consumers. By
establishing "Buy Southern" programs and by forming trade guilds or
associations, we can begin to wean ourselves from economic
dependency. By encouraging the use of private sources of finance,
such as cooperative loans instead of the Empire's banks, we can
begin to break our financial dependency.
Once we
have planted the seeds of cultural, social, and economic renewal,
then (and only then), should we begin to look to the South's
political renewal. Political independence will come only when we
have convinced the Southern people that they are indeed a nation in
the organic, historical, and Biblical sense of the word, namely,
that they are a distinct people with a language, mores, and folkways
that separate them from the rest of the world."
While I do not advocate southern states seceding from the union, I
find that I do agree with some of their thoughts in much the same
manner as I would agree with a political opponent on select
issues. Claiming that TAIG "promoted" the League of the South
because of a "link" on the site would be about the same thing as
saying the Fort Worth Star Telegram endorses and promotes all
advertisers in your paper. If I
remember correctly, the FWST will accept any paid advertising as
long as it is not an illegal activity, vulgar or indecent. It
certainly could not be accused - as you do me - that it "promotes"
such advertisers. I believe that there were other links on TAIG
also and I have no idea as to what each such link promoted. I
endorsed the fight against the use of the SS# - nothing more or
less.As to free medical care - visit John Peter Smith Hospital -
any time and see for yourself. Check out the local WIC offices to
see who is receiving free food. Citizen's who pay taxes but are
very low income, wait in long lines behind these illegals in both
cases. If you don't believe that illegals can dodge liability
coverage, ask any traffic officer in any city in Tarrant County.
There is not prosecution if they do not have such coverage.
As to property ownership, my point was and is that Mexico does not
allow US Citizens to own property in Mexico so why would we allow
illegal Mexicans (or any other illegal nationality) to own property
in the US?
BTW, do you speak Spanish?
Lastly, the survivors families of 911 victims would be glad to know
that you do not consider plotting the murder of thousands the work
of criminals. They probably wouldn't appreciate the fact that you
do not consider "out of status" overstaying of visas or illegal
entry into our country a crime. When they used the boxcutters to
threaten or kill passengers and pilots, by your logic, they were
innocent until proven guilty by a court of law - so they weren't
even criminals then were they? Only after they killed the 3,000
people in their dastardly suicides did
they become criminals according to your logic. I guess we shouldn't
waste our time and resources trying to find other "illegals" who
have over stayed their visas and are plotting to kill others. After
all they are not criminals yet according to your definitions.
Thanks for the enlightenment about illegal immigration being only a
civil matter. I wondered how the intellectuals justified the
pandering to this group.
Ron
Ron West wrote as follow up:
Hi Bud,
In the interest of keeping you "informed", the following is recent
information provided to Senior Leadership Northeast about
Peter Smith:
Jack Lewis
introduced two guests from John Peter Smith (JPS) Hospital.
These being the CEO David
Cecero and Senior VP of Public Relations, Robert Early.
Mr. Cecero spoke to the attendees.
Some highlights of Mr. Cecro remarks
are:
-
Founded in 1906 and therefore is one hundred (100) years old.
-
Has
thirty (30) locations in
Tarrant
County.
-
JPS is one of only two trauma centers in
Tarrant County
-
JPS has 3600 employees
-
JPS overall operation budget is $550 million per year
-
JPS had $290 million of charity care last year
-
Estimated Charity care for 2007 is $325 million
-
There has been no hospital district tax rate increase in five
years
-
120 beds have been added in last five years
-
Federal law requires that JPS must treat anyone who shows up at
Emergency Room
Following Mr. Cecero’s remarks there
were questions from the floor. These questions covered a multitude
of matters with many being related to treatment of undocumented
aliens. Frank Hinchey
referred the attendees to web site spp.gov. This is the home page of
“Security and Prosperity Partnership Of
North America”.
Just thought this might "enlighten" you on us
paying for illegals treatment!
Ron
Bud Kennedy wrote:
Hi Ron,
Thanks for your reply.
I follow JPS. What did you find surprising about the
facts-at-a-glance?
I hope Frank Hinchey was joking. The SPP is not a government
conspiracy. Conspiracies rarely have Web sites.
(Nothing was said about a conspiracy but
the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America
website is both frightening and filled with information that appears
to be in stark contrast to reality. It certainly seems to
indicate that our borders will soon be opened further to a flood of
people who will not even have to apply for citizenship to reside in
our country.)
--Bud
Ron West wrote:
Hi Bud
You are probably right in that all JPS patients regardless of
nationality or legality
must quality according to income. Since illegals for the most part
have little or no
income - we all pay for their medical care. You might owe it to
yourself to check
this out further.
BTW, children do not have to be born in USA to qualify for WIC.
You still owe it to yourself to talk to some traffic officers. Why
write tickets to
no know addresses, no license, no insurance. If we can't find the
illegals to deport them,
why waste time writing tickets?
I was
browsing this link
http://blogs.dfw.com/big_plate/immigration/index.html
(Bud's Big Plate)
at the Fort Worth Star Telegram and noticed that you link to KLIF
and a sign they are promoting for area
businesses that reads, “We Hire Legal Workers Only”. Since you
are linking to it, you must be a supporter of KLIF and
an advocate for the use of such signage.
Ron
(Comment added - not sent:) I like
the sign and think it is a good idea.
Bud Kennedy wrote: (Red
comments are added by me since this will be the last posting on this
item.)
Hi Ron,
Obviously, most illegal aliens come here for jobs. Few qualify for
JPS indigent care under income guidelines.
(Mr. Kennedy is either nieave or not
reading the above information. If they are illegal and in this
country, JPS cannot deny treatment.)
Some come to JPS anyway and pay cash, which is legal.
(If any do pay, they would not be in the $290
Million of free care provided.)
At Parkland in Dallas, indigent care for illegal immigrants consumes
about *2 percent* of the total budget.
(Please Mr. Kennedy, we don't live in
Dallas do we. Where did you get this number anyway?)
That's money, sure. But it's not an overwhelming burden.
($290 Million is not much to liberals since it
other peoples money.)
Tell me more about illegal alien children qualifying for WIC. That
is not true under federal law and state rules.
(I suggested Mr. Kennedy might want to
check this out but it seems like he is not interested in the facts.)
The officers I know write everybody tickets. If you know some who
don't, tell me where they work.
(This sounds like a threat to Police who
live in the real world. Since facts make no difference to
liberals like Mr. Kennedy, we don't need to burden him with such
information. If he becomes interested in the subject, he can
interview any traffic officer he wishes too.)
The intent of the KLIF link is clear from the context.
(Strange comment since any link on any
other website is automatically the position of the website and
anyone associated with it according to Mr. Kennedy.)
So is the intent of the TAIG link to Southern secessionists.
(One more time - TAIG stands for Texans
Against Intrusive Government - and was a single issue group fighting
the use of the Social Security Number to acquire a Drivers License
in Texas. The website has not existed for several years now
since the group lost their legal battle in court.
Labeling and mis-information is the primary tool of our liberal
press and mainstream television. Only talk radio offers
opposing views.)
--Bud
My own bottom line is that we need to close our borders.
I consider this more important than closing the border of Iran with
Iraq. I respect legal immigrants and disrespect illegals.
If we are to be a nation of laws then such laws need to be enforced
regardless of the opinion of our elected leaders that choose to lie
to us during elections or to justify war against other nations.
I am disappointed at the responses of Mr. Bud Kennedy since
he is so good with one line - misleading answers - and seems to
refuse to research anything that might be contrary to his opinion.
Under the guise of "opinion" without facts he can put anything he
wants in print the the Fort Worth Star Telegram. It is up the
readers to actually determine where truth actually lies.
After
you read it, the following exchange that occurred on 1/18/2007 between Bud
Kennedy and I after I read his column - should be both entertaining and
enlightening. I am now informed that illegal immigration is not a criminal
matter - just a civil matter. Read on and you too can become enlightened
by the wisdom of the Fort Worth Star Telegram: It began with
the following email from me to Bud Kennedy - followed in sequence by the
subsequent exchanges: